Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong: You’re Being Lied to About Cancer, How It’s Caused, and How to Stop It
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Analysis Summary
In this podcast episode, Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong discusses the alarming rise in cancer rates, particularly among younger individuals, and explores possible connections to the COVID-19 virus and its vaccines. He highlights the increasing incidence of pancreatic and colon cancer in young people post-COVID-19 infection or vaccination, although he acknowledges that the causality remains under investigation. Dr. Soon-Shiong also delves into the biological aspects of cancer, emphasizing the role of the immune system and the persistence of the COVID virus in the body, which may contribute to health issues like cancer. He critiques the use of the spike protein in mRNA vaccines, suggesting it could be problematic and advocating for alternative approaches to enhance T-cell immunity.
The accuracy of the information presented in the podcast varies. Dr. Soon-Shiong's claims about the rise in cancer rates among younger demographics and the persistence of the COVID virus align with some epidemiological and scientific studies, though more research is needed to establish definitive causation. His statements on the biological mechanisms of cancer, such as the role of the immune system and the impact of chronic inflammation, are supported by scientific literature but are often presented in a simplified manner. Claims regarding the effectiveness of the COVID vaccine and its impact on infection and transmission are partially accurate, as vaccines do reduce disease severity but do not completely prevent infection. Overall, while the podcast raises important questions about cancer and its potential links to COVID-19, it is crucial to approach these topics with a critical eye.
Fact Checks
| Timestamp | Fact | Accuracy | Commentary |
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| 00:00:00 --> 00:00:08 | The IRS flagged $16.5 billion for possible identity fraud last year. | 90 🟢 | According to the IRS's data, it has indeed flagged substantial amounts for potential identity theft in previous years. For accuracy, it is important to refer directly to IRS reports or government publications for updated figures. |
| 00:02:19 --> 00:02:22 | The 10-year survival rate for pancreatic cancer is very low, often measured in months. | 80 🟡 | The 5-year survival rate for pancreatic cancer is about 10%, with many patients surviving less than a year. American Cancer Society data supports this. |
| 00:02:28 --> 00:02:29 | Advanced pancreatic cancer is effectively a death sentence. | 90 🟢 | Advanced stages of pancreatic cancer are typically fatal, with most patients living a very short time. Various studies confirm that most patients with advanced pancreatic cancer do not survive beyond a few months. |
| 00:02:31 --> 00:06:05 | There is a noted increase in pancreatic cancer cases among younger people. | 75 🟡 | Studies show a rise in pancreatic cancer in those under 50, though more research is needed. Source: Cancer Epidemiology. |
| 00:06:08 --> 00:06:08 | Cancer's inability to die, not its rapidity of growth, is a fundamental characteristic. | 55 🟠 | Cancer involves uncontrolled growth and mechanisms that prevent cell death. Source: National Cancer Institute. |
| 00:09:28 --> 00:12:05 | Cancer is fundamentally related to a problem with one's immune system. | 75 🟡 | An impaired immune system can lead to tumor growth. Source: Nature Reviews Cancer. |
| 00:15:58 --> 00:16:42 | The University of California, San Francisco has published research confirming that the COVID virus can persist in the body, leading to symptoms that may contribute to health issues. | 90 🟢 | Research from the University of California, San Francisco, published in journals like *Nature*, supports the idea that viral remnants can persist in the body and are associated with prolonged symptoms like fatigue and immune system suppression. This aligns with findings in "long COVID" studies, validating the claim. |
| 00:16:43 --> 00:16:44 | The spike protein from the COVID vaccine can invade cells through ACE2 receptors, affecting various organs, including the pancreas and brain. | 80 🟡 | It is established that the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2 binds to ACE2 receptors, which are located in several organs, including the pancreas and brain, potentially leading to complications. While some evidence suggests these interactions, more research is needed to fully understand long-term impacts. |
| 00:18:08 --> 00:23:05 | There has been an increase in incidences of pancreatic and colon cancer among young people after COVID-19 infection or vaccination. | 60 🟠 | Some reports suggest an uptick, but causality with COVID-19 or vaccines is unconfirmed. Source: JAMA Oncology. |
| 00:34:50 --> 00:35:39 | Two companies, American Pharmaceutical Partners and Abraxane, were sold for $10 billion, with one producing close to a million vials a day. | 90 🟢 | American Pharmaceutical Partners did produce a significant volume of vials, focusing on heparin. The sale to Fresenius was indeed reported to be around $10 billion. Sources like company press releases support this. |
| 00:35:39 --> 00:38:48 | The claim that there was no government funding in the development process is mentioned. | 65 🟠 | Private companies often receive government support. Source: NIH funding data. |
| 00:43:29 --> 00:47:00 | The claim is made that the COVID vaccine does not protect against infection or transmission. | 40 🔴 | Vaccines reduce severity and hospitalization but do not completely prevent infection. Source: CDC. |
| 00:39:25 --> 00:39:27 | T-cells to nucleocapsid and spike indicate protection from COVID if re-infected. | 75 🟡 | T-cells are linked to a stronger immune response, but individual responses vary. Source: Nature Medicine. |
| 00:40:17 --> 00:40:15 | Persistence and the role of inflammation and immunosuppression are said to be recipes for cancer. | 75 🟡 | Chronic inflammation is linked to cancer, but the claim oversimplifies. Source: Cancer Research. |
| 01:09:49 --> 01:09:54 | Host points out Seattle has the highest suicide rate in the U.S. | 60 🟠 | Seattle has a high rate, but not the highest. Source: CDC data. |
| 01:11:51 --> 01:12:00 | Infection or diabetic foot infection can lead to a systemic infection and kill elderly individuals. | 90 🟢 | The immune response in elderly patients is generally weaker, and diabetes can lead to severe infections. Research from the CDC supports this, showing a higher death risk from infections in older, diabetic individuals. |
| 01:12:02 --> 01:12:45 | H. pylori is the cause of gastric ulcers, not stomach acid as previously thought. | 90 🟢 | This claim aligns with current medical consensus; H. pylori is widely recognized as the primary cause of peptic ulcers, backed by numerous studies and the CDC's guidelines. |
| 01:14:21 --> 01:14:22 | Chemotherapy does not cure cancer; natural killer cells and T cells are the ones that fight cancer. | 45 🔴 | Chemotherapy is part of many cancer treatments, alongside immunotherapy. Source: Mayo Clinic. |
| 01:15:02 --> 01:18:09 | Chemotherapy, radiotherapy, and steroids destroy the ‘missing link’ that is essential to combat cancer. | 45 🔴 | These treatments can impair the immune system but are crucial for managing cancer. Source: Cancer.gov. |
| 01:19:47 --> 01:20:01 | There are bladder cancer patients who have been in complete remission for nine years after treatment. | 90 🟢 | Several studies and clinical trials document cases of bladder cancer achieving prolonged remission with modern therapies. For instance, the use of immunotherapy has shown significant results in patient outcomes, making this claim largely accurate. |
| 01:22:13 --> 01:22:23 | The tumors in patients can be used as vaccines to educate T-cells about that tumor. | 75 🟡 | Tumor-infiltrating lymphocytes are used in immunotherapy. Source: Journal of Clinical Oncology. |
| 01:23:26 --> 01:23:33 | It is now possible to extract natural killer cells and T-cells from one pint of blood and grow billions of them. | 80 🟡 | Research in cellular therapy, particularly CAR-T and NK cell therapies, confirms that such processes can amplify immune cells from patient blood samples. However, the practicality and implementation vary significantly. |
| 01:26:31 --> 01:26:32 | The claim is made that 13-year-olds are getting pancreatic cancer. | 40 🔴 | Pancreatic cancer in adolescents is rare, with few reported cases. Source: Pediatric Blood & Cancer. |
| 01:27:47 --> 01:27:49 | The mRNA vaccine was produced by stabilizing the virus's spike protein. | 90 🟢 | This aligns with scientific consensus as mRNA vaccines, such as Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna, utilize stabilized spike protein for an immune response. This method's effectiveness in vaccinations has been documented extensively. |
| 01:28:00 --> 01:31:08 | Using the spike protein from the COVID virus in a vaccine context is claimed to be problematic. | 75 🟡 | Some suggest targeting other viral components for better T-cell immunity. Source: Science. |
| 01:33:11 --> 01:33:17 | The speaker claims their supercomputer, in collaboration with Microsoft, analyzed the infectivity of COVID variants across human types. | 90 🟢 | Many research institutions, including those associated with Microsoft, have developed AI and computational models for analyzing COVID-19 variants. While the details can vary, the collaboration mentioned fits within broader trends in AI use in health research. Sources: Nature, Lancet. |
| 01:34:42 --> 01:36:26 | The speaker states they invested $50 million in a national preparedness facility in Dunkirk, New York, which remains empty. | 70 🟡 | There was indeed a $200 million investment in a facility for biotech and public health efforts in Dunkirk, NY. Although the current status of occupancy may need confirmation, reports indicate issues with leadership and resource allocation have left it underutilized. Source: News reports from local outlets. |
| 01:36:37 --> 01:36:42 | The speaker claims they purchased the LA Times for $500 million without due diligence. | 70 🟡 | Patrick Soon-Shiong did purchase the LA Times, and reports indicate the deal was complex, with urgency mentioned. However, the claim of "no due diligence" could be more subjective and varies in interpretation across reports. Source: Various media coverage including Los Angeles Times articles. |
90 🟢
The IRS flagged $16.5 billion for possible identity fraud last year.
80 🟡
The 10-year survival rate for pancreatic cancer is very low, often measured in months.
90 🟢
Advanced pancreatic cancer is effectively a death sentence.
75 🟡
There is a noted increase in pancreatic cancer cases among younger people.
55 🟠
Cancer's inability to die, not its rapidity of growth, is a fundamental characteristic.
75 🟡
Cancer is fundamentally related to a problem with one's immune system.
90 🟢
The University of California, San Francisco has published research confirming that the COVID virus can persist in the body, leading to symptoms that may contribute to health issues.
80 🟡
The spike protein from the COVID vaccine can invade cells through ACE2 receptors, affecting various organs, including the pancreas and brain.
60 🟠
There has been an increase in incidences of pancreatic and colon cancer among young people after COVID-19 infection or vaccination.
90 🟢
Two companies, American Pharmaceutical Partners and Abraxane, were sold for $10 billion, with one producing close to a million vials a day.
65 🟠
The claim that there was no government funding in the development process is mentioned.
40 🔴
The claim is made that the COVID vaccine does not protect against infection or transmission.
75 🟡
T-cells to nucleocapsid and spike indicate protection from COVID if re-infected.
75 🟡
Persistence and the role of inflammation and immunosuppression are said to be recipes for cancer.
60 🟠
Host points out Seattle has the highest suicide rate in the U.S.
90 🟢
Infection or diabetic foot infection can lead to a systemic infection and kill elderly individuals.
90 🟢
H. pylori is the cause of gastric ulcers, not stomach acid as previously thought.
45 🔴
Chemotherapy does not cure cancer; natural killer cells and T cells are the ones that fight cancer.
45 🔴
Chemotherapy, radiotherapy, and steroids destroy the ‘missing link’ that is essential to combat cancer.
90 🟢
There are bladder cancer patients who have been in complete remission for nine years after treatment.
75 🟡
The tumors in patients can be used as vaccines to educate T-cells about that tumor.
80 🟡
It is now possible to extract natural killer cells and T-cells from one pint of blood and grow billions of them.
40 🔴
The claim is made that 13-year-olds are getting pancreatic cancer.
90 🟢
The mRNA vaccine was produced by stabilizing the virus's spike protein.
75 🟡
Using the spike protein from the COVID virus in a vaccine context is claimed to be problematic.
90 🟢
The speaker claims their supercomputer, in collaboration with Microsoft, analyzed the infectivity of COVID variants across human types.
70 🟡
The speaker states they invested $50 million in a national preparedness facility in Dunkirk, New York, which remains empty.
70 🟡
The speaker claims they purchased the LA Times for $500 million without due diligence.